Showing posts with label Jeremy Saffer. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Jeremy Saffer. Show all posts

Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Interview with Jeremy Saffer, take two.

Our last interview with Jeremy was well over two years ago. We thought it was the perfect time to change that. With the news of him signing with Dynalite, we figured we'd catch up with our fellow photographer and see how he's been doing.

As some of you know, Jeremy was in Los Angeles from the end of June to the beginning of July, and we assisted  him on his shoots and Mayhem Fest. During this time he also stayed at our house a few nights here and there. Here is what Jeremy had to say.

L.A.S.S. PHOTO: It's been a little over two years since our last interview, how have things been going for you?
Jeremy Saffer: Excellent. Totally different state of mind, things have been getting better, and made some major changes to how I do business/shoot etc. that have worked out really well for me since we last talked.

L.A.S.S. PHOTO: Can you give us an example? 
Jeremy Saffer: Well, I feel like for the past maybe... 3 years... 2007-2010 - I was working very VERY hard with very little to show for it. My shoots would get bigger, the artists I worked with were more well known, but I was just floating by and not really moving up... It wasn't a lack of motivation or anything, I just had it in my head that I had to do as many shoots as possible with everyone possible and work myself to death in order to be successful, and at one point I hit a pretty hard low, about a year ago actually, and I think, as with anyone... When you hit the bottom, there's only one way to go... up. and I did. It lit a fire under me and one year later, its a totally different game on every level because of the changes I've made. I mean, I almost quit... it was bad haha.

L.A.S.S. PHOTO: For beginning photographers, I could see that happening to them. But someone who's been doing this for a while, it must have been hard on you. What really made you pull yourself out of the rut and keep going? Any specific shoot or words of wisdom?
Jeremy Saffer: Well, I think with every career... it’s like climbing a mountain and there are certain plateaus you hit before you get to climb up again... For me I didn't realize I had to really reinvent myself in order to get off of a plateau I had been walking down for far too long... But with anything - you have to pay your dues... SO MANY do not understand that. I fully understand that, but basically my breaking point was a perfect storm of a few things happening all at once... First - my money had been drained due to problems at my house (first a water heater blew, then a few other things, roommates not paying rent on time, etc, etc.) Second I had to do 27... TWENTY SEVEN - photo shoots over two days of a certain show... Which were all set up by that shows P.R. agency. I show up day 1... and literally 4 of the bands know about these shoots (normally I would go directly to each bands individual publicist but was told not to) so... cool... I got 4 of 27 shoots done. GREAT - and three of them were additive shoots - 1 was assigned so I had a few days before my second day of shooting - I contacted all the management and publicists directly - and day 2 - I did the rest of the shoots ended up doing 31. Absolutely the worst experience of my entire career thus far - it was mentally and physically abuse to myself haha, but the THIRD thing to make things awful... one of the shoots I was supposed to do was a shoot with a band who are friends... their management was EXTREMELY disrespectful to me, beyond anything I've ever had happen to me my entire career... - its been smoothed out since - but that was like - "oof brutal." Fourth - of those 31 shoots... most of them were "favors" where I was taking a VERY hefty pay cut. I basically got home from those two days - bummed out - never wanting to ever deal with the music industry again - looking at my bills being three times my income, and I snapped. I was either going to get a job at my families company or... I didn't even know what I was going to do... I was literally looking up jobs - for real.. I was done. Then I came up with an idea to do limited edition prints - do a different type of seminar - reach out to everyone I've been doing favors for - working for - working with - etc. I didn't want to come off negatively - but it was my "look... I've been doing this for this long... its time for us to step up our game working together," and it worked. I got so motivated - got pumped again on everything I was doing... and it was great... I sort of siked myself up... if that makes any sense?

L.A.S.S. PHOTO: Reinvention. It's needed from time to time even when you are as badass as Jeremy Saffer.
Jeremy Saffer: I'm not that bad ass but yeah - I mean - you need to stay motivated and theres different ways to do that - I've found mine and it’s important to have.

L.A.S.S. PHOTO:  You've been doing seminars for a while now, when did you start doing them? How did you come up with the idea to do the seminars?
Jeremy Saffer:
Well - for seminars - I saw a bunch I wanted to go to but they were like 1 grand or more each.... and all in LA. I would constantly get questions about how I do what I do so I thought, "why not do a seminar, that’s actually affordable, and teach everything I can..." - which you know... pisses some people off.. A LOT... haha. But it is what it is. I don't think these "industry secrets" are really secrets... and teaching people to do what I had to learn the hard way, is teaching them the RIGHT way to go about it, so they don't run into the problems I had to deal with. Oooh I get some nasty comments. Other photographers in the industry don't want MORE photographers in the industry... They get way sore that I teach it. They have this mentality like, "ok this 16 year old just took Jeremy's seminar, obviously they are now going to steal my job with Spin Magazine. Fuck Jeremy Saffer." They look at everyone as competition - like every photographer is after their little slice of industry which isn't true - I mean - why do you think there’s 20+ photographers at many shows - because they are taking each other’s jobs? No. They all have different outlets they are shooting for. I ran into an issue with a photographer this summer that got wicked cut throat and they clearly saw me as a threat... It's just pointless... It's like... "are you really that defensive that you can't share the ENTIRE MUSIC INDUSTRY with other photographers? Get off it." Different photographers have different looks... different ways of shooting, editing, etc. There's no need to get sore when other photographers exist around you. It's better to HELP them, than to try and hurt them. I feel photographers SHOULD be a supportive community - not the opposite. 


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: I'm assuming more of the disapproval comes from veterans of major magazines.
Jeremy Saffer: Oh no - not at all - they have the same mentality I do - it's those little ziners who get mad - Old ass 40 year olds who shoot for websites and never get paid in anything but photo credit getting super bummed out that there's MORE photographers now... Haha - It's like - "cmon - who are you?" There's two types of photographers in this industry. There's those who do it because they love it - and those who do what they do for money and money and more money. Sure we all like recognition - none of us do this for a lack of that - but I think that goes with both types - Those who love it, and those who just do it because it's something to do.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO:  In your seminar, you teach how to get paid to do what you love, in 30 words or less, give us a brief example of what someone could expect at one of your seminars.
Jeremy Saffer: I have to count words? Really? OK. Basically the entire start to finish of going from beginner to pro. Starting with getting passes, emailing, invoicing, etc. to lighting, selling your work, and making a career of it. BOOM 30. Take THAT.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: Have you done any seminars with any other photographers, and if so, who? Who would you also like to do a seminar with?
Jeremy Saffer:
I did one with Adam Elmakias - and three with Gage Young. Which at the time was REALLY cool, because we were really all at the same level, in the same industry, working with the same bands, but doing it in completely different ways. We have since all grown up as photographers, moved on to different things, and all gotten better at doing what we do. I love those dudes like family, I would love to do an Adam/Gage/Jeremy seminar one day - but it would just be clashy I think - Too many differences in how we do stuff you know? - But as of right now I really like doing the solo seminars - Chad Lee had talked about doing a collab seminar, so it's something that could happen in the future, but I don’t know, I think after the last two capturing music seminars I'm going to have to come up with something very different - next level (like more geared towards pros rather than general).

 
L.A.S.S. PHOTO:  You use bands in the second day of the seminar for students to shoot, what bands have you used and who were your favorites?
Jeremy Saffer: Well it’s always different... Thy Will Be Done has been kind of the staple - I think they've done something like 6 seminars? Vanna has done 2 or 3? Then we've also had MyChildren MyBride, Our Last Night, September Mourning, Shai Hulud, and of course in LA we had New Years Day. They are mostly VERY close friends, I couldn't pick a favorite of those as at least 3 of my best friends are in there. But I would say Thy Will Be Done has been there the most, and are TROOOOOPERS. Then at most of these seminars - after the band shoot - we go to a concert and the kids get to shoot a concert that night - sometimes a festival.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: Your last Massachusetts seminar is in September, do you have anything special planned?
Jeremy Saffer: 
Well I've expanded parts of the seminar to include more information, as I do every time... But I likely won't be doing anything out of the ordinary for it, other than this being the last "Capturing Music" seminar in Mass (not the last seminar in Mass, but the last one for this specific series) - I don't know if I will do another seminar in Mass (to clear that up) - but if I do - it will be something completely new and all different - But likely going to debut that in LA if all goes well the plan is "Capturing Music" Sept. here - Dec. there (LA) - then move on to something new.

L.A.S.S. PHOTO: Why did you choose LA for that debut?
Jeremy Saffer: Well I'll likely be living there by then haha - hopefully.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO:  You recently visited LA and had a seminar here, how did that all go? Tell us a bit about your LA trip. 
Jeremy Saffer: Well, basically it was very short notice... about a month - if even that... OK - so short notice I had a free flight to LA - so I called my ex-roommate/best bud Jessie Lee to see if she was around and had a place I could crash - and also called YOU (Hanna) to see if YOU had a place I could crash as she (Jessie Lee) had a very hectic schedule going to about 500,000 warped tour shows. So after I had a place to stay - a free flight - I figured - ok let’s go for it - why not? - I can't stand LA when I roll through town but whatever - I'll try it out. I spent over 3 weeks there and didn't want to leave. Most times I tour or visit anywhere there's that point where it's like - OK - I'm ready to be in my own bed - in my house - with my dvd collection and my friends. That didn't happen - I hated leaving - and hated the first month of being home - Now I'm kind of like - OK I'm getting ready to move - so it's not THAT terrible - but oh my mentality changed while I was there for sure - I'm ready to try it out and see how I do there I mean - I had so many shoots there - almost every day - got to see so many friends I don't often see - got to meet a lot of industry folk I've worked with for YEARS and never met - and actually saw my manager and the Adrenaline team for the first time in YEARS - and we live 4 hours apart!!! But we saw each other in LA! Haha I think I could shoot there every day and love it - I would just have to find an assistant who knows how to NOT break my stuff - or train YOU better and kill your dog by throwing your cat at it. Come get me PETA.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: HAHA. Thanks. Kaito loves you! How dare you!
Jeremy Saffer:
  But yeah it’s a different world. The only thing I don't like about LA is it's not like you can go - "oh, there, that looks cool lets set up lights and shoot there," which you can do here - anywhere - and there's a lot of older buildings - and cool looking stuff where LA is just... LA - and if you set up lights - you're either in A LOT of peoples way - or police are going to roll up and shut you down or fine you. Here you can flat out take a nude model in face paint and go wherever and shoot - usually not an issue - there - nowhere to do that really unless you travel pretty far.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: So in a way, you feel like LA is a bit more restricted then Massachusetts in that sense. Do you find LA better to shoot in in general except for that hang up, or would you prefer Massachusetts?
Jeremy Saffer:
  I mean - EVERYONE is in LA - the labels, 25+ venues in a 2 hour radius - and tons of celebs, bands, producers... bands who AREN'T from LA go there to record. If only we had that sort of hub in Western Massachusetts I would likely stay - that and no humidity would be nice the biggest thing is - winter and summer are awful for shooting here because of snow and humidity - then there's rain - it rains a lot here... it doesn't so much in California as I understand it but anyway - yeah LA is absolutely more restrictive and there's WAY more photographers there - Mayhem had like 100+ photographers - some with dumb little stools they stood on in the photo pit (fucking ridiculous) - here there's maybe 20... and no fucking stools!


L.A.S.S. PHOTO:  I remember your fury about the stools.
Jeremy Saffer:  Also - no Randy Johnson - try photographing over THAT dude... He's taller than the people on stools! Like 8'20". Yeah fuck those stools - they should NOT be allowed at venues - and now I get when I see press emails saying "No step stools allowed at the venue" - I REALLY hope that goes world wide - so obnoxious.


LA.S.S. PHOTO: Haha, you get a press email with that in there!?!?!?
Jeremy Saffer:  Oh yeah - "First three songs, no flash, no step stools." I never knew what that meant til that Mayhem Fest warped tour didn't have any because they don't allow it because it’s dangerous and obnoxious.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: What if you got endorsed by a stool company?!
Jeremy Saffer:
For what? Reaching shit in my kitchen? I wouldn't accept. "Hi we are Stools of Rock, we want you to use our stool." - I would straight up be like - I got a stool for you... and for those who for whatever reason don't know - stool is also slang for poop. So. There's that.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO:  Speaking of endorsements, you recently signed with Dynalite, can you tells us why you choose them over any other lighting company and what equipment of theirs you use?
Jeremy Saffer:
Yeah I've been using the Dynalite Jackrabbit kit since first doing on location photos with lighting - I had a few choices, at the time Alien Bees were pretty new - and after doing a lot of research , I bought two Jackrabbit kits (4 heads) - and have been using them ever since and for good reason! They provide the most consistent lighting I've ever seen for an on location kit... There is ZERO color temp shift even when you change light settings, they always fire at the same power as the previous shot - but most importantly - they can work in cold (VERY COLD) and very VERY hot conditions and provide the same quality in either. I shot Our Last Night - on a frozen lake - literally the coldest day ever - AND it was windy - which made it worst - Dynalites did not fail at all... I often have them out in the sun literally for 12 hours during Warped Tour photo sessions and they work perfectly fine. I tried out Alien Bees and what a mess those are... Literally - out of 50 shots - same settings - 25 different results - the color temp shifts SO much - If you change the settings it shifts even more - total Walmart brand lighting. I get what new photogs use them - because they Photoshop the shit out of them so temp doesn't matter - Nor does a half-firing ill powered light - but they are SUPER cheap... so I get it... But - as with anything - you get what you pay for. But yeah any on location shoot I've done - Dynalite. Such incredible lighting - and even when they are completely SMASHED - like - legit broken... they still fire perfectly fine. I'm blown away - they took a 5 foot heavy SMASH to concrete - CAVED IN the back of TWO lights!!!! (somewhat to the fault of wind, and to the fault of the person doing the interview right now) - But they fired, and got the job done, and are still firing and working with shoots I've been doing since (as i cycle them in for repair).


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: For a session shoot, how do you set up your lighting? What is your usual "go to" set up that you prefer to work with? For example, what kind of lights, reflectors, flashes, etc.
Jeremy Saffer: OK- So I generally use 1, 2, and 3 light set ups on location - mostly 3 and 1. - rarely 2 and rarely but sometimes 5. I used to do ALL shoots with two lights - for a while I was using two Uni400jrs (Dynalite) with two Coldtone umbrellas (Dynalite) and shot everything split lighting forever because... I guess I  thought it looked awesome - but now I look back and cringe at some of my older photos - as I think most do so - I moved away from soft light and started shooting more hard light - using a beauty dish as a main for most shoots - then using two bare Parabolics as rim lights one of my go to set ups is a bare parabolic on either side behind the subject(s) at about a 45 degree angle - flagged off so no light hits my lens - with a boomed beauty dish - all Uni400s - usually the bares at 40% power and the main at 30% (as its closer). Then I'll often boom the dish straight down for some photos to get that classic butterfly lighting from above but lately I've been getting weird - I shot in a stairwell the other day and used one light up a full story pointed at the wall behind the stairs - and another pointing at the actual stairs - far behind the subjects - and a beauty dish main - I blasted the Parabolics at about 50% and the main was set at its normal 30% - and it looks REALLY cool – it’s all about knowing what happens when you throw a light somewhere at a certain power in a certain direction  in studio however - I tend to go back and forth from soft lighting (two 3x4 soft boxes) and hard lighting (the set ups above) - especially if there's one subject if there's a full band ill sometimes do the triangular style lighting then add split soft boxes pointed downward to fill in the lower body with soft light.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: Now, when you shoot live shows, how do you work your magic? Explain how you feel when you get that perfect shot, and what it means to you and what kind of tools of the trade you use when you shoot a live show.
Jeremy Saffer: I've seen some photographers set up actual lights on stage with triggers - or flashes with triggers - then there are purists who REFUSE to use a flash - or those who use only an off camera flash on a hotshoe wire for me - I just use a Speedlite and the Lumiquest 80/20 with frost diffusion basically what it does is shoots 80% of the light up - and bounces 20% forward - but diffused it also adds another 4-5 inches to your light - which is awesome because your subject is often at least 4-8 feet above you. The way I shoot - is generally ISO 400 - drag the shutter around a 10th - 30th to bleed in the lighting provided at the concert - and at F5.6-11 (depending on distance and if it’s one person or full stage) - So the flash locks in your subject and the shutter drags in the lighting making for a perfectly blended photo I think shooting natural light is SUPER lame - I mean - I get it - it's a cool look - but you’re shooting what's there - show me Warped Tour photos taken by 1,000 photographers and they generally all look the same right? - You show me photos taken by someone using a flash - and they generally either have their own style - or at least look a bit different than the work of everyone else in the photo pit - you get more control with it - you create something that is your own rather than just capturing what’s right there in front of you anyway  and I'm not trying to trash shooting non-flash - it does take technical ability to snag that and make it look good - but I think having the control and being able to create or add to the lighting - makes the shot. At least for what I'm going for. Also if all goes well there may likely be the Lumiquest Concert kit - which would include everything I use for shows.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: So it doesn't bug you when photographers use flash. There's a lot of discrepancies over photographers who use flash at an indoor show.
Jeremy Saffer: No - why would it? It shouldn’t bother ANY photographer if a photographer is using flash or not - it doesn’t affect your photo. If you're shooting video - yeah - you see flashes - but if you're shooting without flash - other photographers using flash have ZERO effect on your images unless you somehow capture an image the same time a flash is going off - which may happen maybe once or twice during a full show - at most. Usually the photogs who get mad at photogs who use flash are the ones who don’t know how to properly use them - in my experience anyway. Like photographers who use non-diffused flashes - pointed to the side or directly at the artist - oof - I could see that being a BLINDING issue haha. But it still wouldn’t effect anyone else's images.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: Who else are you endorsed by?
Jeremy Saffer: I am endorsed by Monster Energy Drinks, but really it's more for those who I'm shooting with than me. It helps keep the artists lively during our shoots, as most of them are on tour, and sometimes have to wake up super early for shoots, it helps keep them alive! I also wear Peter Says denim shorts and jeans - which is awesome - best jeans out there for sure and a great company - I also do some photos for them - and of course Seventh Dagger, which is a straight edge label and clothing company - if you see me wearing a straight edge shirt (which is often) it's Seventh Dagger. - they also print my merch - and I do a lot of photos for their records and catalogs - I just shot the new Armed for Battle record cover - and not too long ago the most recent XrepresentX record cover.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: In 2008, you put a book out titled, "Bring the Noise." You have a new book coming out some time soon with models in corpse paint, what's the inspiration behind that? Do you have a title for it yet?
Jeremy Saffer: I have a tentative title. I don't want to say it quite yet - a lot in the works in SLOW MOTION behind the book. But I guess that is a good thing because I can keep shooting for it until it's ready to be put together. But basically I was shooting a t-shirt design for my friend Karim - NLSL clothing - you might see him on tour right now slinging merch for Cannibal Corpse or know him as Black Dahlia's long time tour manager and stage ape... Anyway - the concept was a recreation of this is hardcore/pulp - but corpse paint - this is black metal/NLSL. So I did that shoot with a model who is into black metal as I am - and decided - OK - nude model in corpse paint - let's shoot a bunch more - and we did - and it instantly brought me back to a time when I would buy records solely on how cool the cover was - generally with a nude women or someone in corpse paint so it snowballed into being a project - then it took over my life a bit - and I shot a bunch for it - I think i have over 120 models now? Something insane like that - who have shot for it I tried to balance model and entertainment photography where if I got sick of one I did the other - but since last losing my taste for most model work I've been VERY slow to return to it - I've been VERY busy with band work - and bands are easier to work with than models 90% of the time. So anyway - the book... if all goes well it'll be out before Christmas - but because the wheels tend to turn really slowly on the business side of things - it'll likely be spring or fall 2013 - at some point if it doesn't happen - I'll make it happen on my own - I would just rather have it be put out with distribution on a label - not out of my pocket - you know i really have three books ready to go it’s just figuring out - how to put them out - and when.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: What are the other 3 books about?
Jeremy Saffer: 1. the corpse paint book 2. a follow up to Bring the Noise (band and celeb portraits) 3. an instructional book about music photography - like my seminar but written. 4. a book of live photography. and 5. a book of my fine art nude work (which has been published in Europe a lot but not really here in the US) OK so 5. Wait 6. There's a book coming out next April - I'm not sure if I can talk about it yet? But it's featuring all my photography. It's going to be a REALLY cool book - but being that I'm not sure I can talk about it - I can't really give details other than my photography is in it - but the stuff that's going to be in it aside from photos - is going to be REALLY awesome and interesting.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: What can you tell us about it in the mean time?
Jeremy Saffer:
I can say it's the written history of a certain music...thing... based in metal and hardcore - that I've been a part of since I started my career - and it's going to be the culmination of a decade and a half of work. That may be too easy to figure out - but it's in the works - and it's going to be incredible - I cannot WAIT to read all the amazing stories in it.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: Aside from working on your books, you have 2 covers this month, one for Outburn featuring Miss May I, and Hails & Horns featuring Baroness. What can you tell us about landing a cover? Do you know beforehand you're shooting for the cover, or are you told later on?
Jeremy Saffer: Usually it's beforehand - and it's planned well in advance so you have the concept - the time frame of the shoot - you know you need A LOT of vertical images with some headroom above the subjects for logo space - etc. - But on rare occasion you'll shoot something and it'll end up being the cover after you've already shot it. Like currently a shoot I already did may be on the next cover of one of those two magazines mentioned above - but for some weird reason, magazines like to keep photographers in the dark sometimes - and I find out when the rest of the world finds out I literally don't see the cover until it goes public. But it's really cool to get two covers the same month - I don't think that's ever happened to me before now. It just gets weird when you're shooting for various outlets (freelance) and different magazines want similar bits and pieces from the same shoot - that's when things get sticky - and that's why you want as much variety as possible - I'll even go so far as to shoot a band twice in two days for different outlets. Now if I could ever get the cover of Rolling Stone... ever... (won't happen) but that's my number 1 dream as a photographer... As long as it's not a photo of like... Snooki and her mutant offspring or something like that... but even then I'd probably still take it.




L.A.S.S. PHOTO: Do you have anything exciting going on for September? Any covers or awesome photos in magazines?
Jeremy Saffer: Yeah I mean - a shoot I just did is going to likely be a cover, I'm just now allowed to say who or what - but it's absolutely a controversial shoot so it'll raise a few eyebrows for sure - But September for me is going to be pretty easy. I nearly have nothing booked which is good - because I REALLY need to catch up on personal stuff such as my blog (which I updated every shoot in 2010 - most shoots in 2011 - and FOUR shoots in 2012) - and my behind the scenes video stuff I've been shooting since my first Jeffree Star shoot has gone so long just sitting on my hard drive waiting to come out and offend people! Gahh - So much work to do and so little time. But I have spreads in September coming out in AP, a BUNCH of stuff in the next two issues of Revolver, of course the next Outburn, and the next Hails and Horns. But I believe the next Outburn comes out in October - as does the next Hails.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: I recently saw in an issued press release about you signing with Dynalite that you recreated the cover art of Revolver with Corey Taylor of Slipknot/Stone Sour and Kerry King of Slayer. How did that come about?
Jeremy Saffer: Well there's a bit of a back story to this.. Not a long one... but basically I've been "on call" waiting for some more Revolver shoots to land my way - So I got an assignment to head out to upstate New York and photograph a comic book artist by the name of Greg Capullo (I knew the name, but didn't know why at the time) - for Revolver and I was explained it was for the "Favorite Shit" section - was given examples - etc. It's basically a spot where the featured person is photographed with some of his favorite stuff - and talks about it. So I did some research and being a HUGE Mcfarlane nerd (Spawn/horror figures etc) - I found out Greg was his right hand man - and even took over Spawn, and Haunt, and did the Creech - and was now doing Batman - and the next cover of Revolver so I head up there to do the shoot - shot photos of him working on the INCREDIBLE cover he drew of Kerry fighting Corey - and we became buds because we are both metal nerds and into the same stuff... DIO!... What else needs to be said there? Dio fans generally get along haha. So anyway - I did that shoot - the issue came out - and from what I understand it went something like this... Kerry saw the cover and said "No way man, I would take him out! I could destroy him, we gotta redo this!!!" But his wording was probably a bit more... intense.. haha even if he was kidding. So the word got around and they asked me to go out to upstate New York Mayhem Fest and recreate the cover - I was stuck in a venue made of brick!!! So I found a VERY small and tight hallway in the basement of catering that had a black wall (which is what I needed) - and I got Kerry and Corey together to recreate the cover... - rather than duke it out. But it was fun! - as Kerry walked downstairs he yelled, "TAYLORRR!!! I'M GOING TO KICK YOUR ASS!!!" - So Corey spoke in a Kerry King like voice and said "GOD DAMN IT I'M GOING TO GO DO SOME PUSH UPS FIRST!" Haha they have an awesome playful banter but also a very strong mutual respect which is awesome. So we did that cover recreation which will be in the next issue of Revolver which hits the first week of September I believe - and it's PRETTY damn close! As for who would win in a fight... I think Kerry has more strength - but Corey would likely be much faster - so if they ever did duke it out - it'd probably end pretty evenly.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: You recently shot Memphis May Fire for AP, and it's my understanding that this is your first spread in AP in a few years, how did that happen? What is the "story" behind it? 
Jeremy Saffer: Well - I used to do a slew of work for AP back in the day when I was first starting - mostly live photos - and a few spreads- maybe 3? But I fell out of contact with them when I started doing a lot of work with Outburn and staff has constantly changed over there - so I've been trying and trying to get back in the door there - and while I was shooting Michael Vampire for Revolver at Warped Tour - my buddy Matty walked by and was like "Damn dude! Didn't know you'd be here we gotta shoot an AP thing." So I explained I was going to be at the show in 3 days - AND they had a day off after that so we could shoot in the studio so it all got locked in - and this is actually their first spread in AP ever - and my first in maybe over 5 years - maybe more also - and very important - this is the FIRST fun shoot Memphis have ever done... they usually only do serious shots - but we had fun with it - so you'll get to see a side of the band you haven't seen before - which is often my goal when doing a shoot... we shot over two days and got some GREAT images. I'm really pumped on aaand hopefully I'll be shooting a bit more for AP in the future *fingers crossed*.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: If someone was doing an impromptu photo shoot of YOU, what would it consist of?
Jeremy Saffer: Me doing everything hahaha - I hate photos of me. But I actually have a photo shoot coming up this week - Not very excited about it... I've literally done every professional photo of me you've ever seen with a timer. Basically I told this photographer - ok - DARK - lots of shadows - minimal highlights if any at all. DARK DARK DARK DARK DARK! - dark!


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: What does your DVD collection consist of? What is your movie guilty pleasure?
Jeremy Saffer: Everything - It's a bit over 3000 dvds strong. A lot of signed stuff - rare and limited editions - boxed sets - imports - but it's taken over - I need to downsize. Well today I wanted to watch music related comedies - and my collection is pretty huge so I could do that - I watched Wayne's World 1 and 2 - Airheads - Empire Records and Detroit Rock City. I didn't watch them watch them - I sort of had them on as background as I was editing - but you know - being able to say - ok - comedies about music - let's do this. But the best one is probably Be Cool - it's a music INDUSTRY comedy - not many people know about it for some reason - oh and Get Him to the Greek is a pretty good music comedy... I should probably watch that tomorrow.


L.A.S.S. PHOTO: Who is your ultimate favorite musician, dead or alive, that you want/would have wanted to shoot before you die?
Jeremy Saffer: Well my favorite singer of all time ever for metal/rock is Ronnie James Dio - I never got a chance to do a photo shoot with him and I would say my dream shoot would have been Dio Sabbath or Heaven and Hell (which is the same thing) - Michael Jackson was my favorite performer/singer of pop - so being able to photograph him would have been incredible - I shot Dio live but never got a chance to shoot Michael - and of course Peter Steele would have been awesome to photograph but I never tried to so I never did...  as for living... I want to shoot all the legends - Lemmy, Scott Ian, Metallica, Rollins. Madonna, Kiss, Crue, King Diamond - and so many more - the list could go on forever - but every now and again I get really lucky and I get to check one off the list it's really random though - like - I would LOVE to do a photo shoot with Bill Cosby - and he lives about 30 minutes away from me. I just don't think I have any way of making that happen as much as I would love to. I have this whole.... weird... concept/theory - kind of like in that Zorro movie where you are in a circle - and everyone else is outside of it as you grow in what you do - the circle gets bigger and more people outside of that circle are in your circle and then you can work with them - ya know Anthony Hopkins words it much more eloquently than I could. You know I'd love to take a really serious and really fun photo of him - to have them juxtaposed to one another maybe a very grainy black and white tri-x shot with very selective lighting on a black background - single rim - hard front lighting. Then a fun bright shot - maybe Jell-O everywhere? Or him lost in a sea of cups of Jell-O? I dunno either way Bill Cosby is fucking awesome.


Upon decided to interview Jeremy, we decided to involve everyone. We posted about people sending in their questions and we got some good ones. The best questions is to win a free print. Here is Jeremy's answers to all your questions!

@JosephBTB asked: Everyone has their own unique way of shooting. What do you think makes yours different than others? 
A) I'm not sure what makes my work different from others.. or the way I shoot different as I haven't watched many other photographers shoot - however I think this is a good question to ask people who follow many photographers - they could answer that better than I could.

@hellwas2fun asked: What goes through your head when shooting/ before shooting? Are you amazed/anxious or do you have other thoughts? 
A)  Depends on the shoot - every now and again I get tense before shoots and work myself up - but most wouldn't be able to see it - those who know me well - maybe - but I stay on point, clear headed, and professional during all shoots... Sometimes I'm anxious or excited, but mostly I'm just thinking - OK - if this light is pointed this way and at 40% power... and this light is at 30% power.. Oh wait - are all the batteries on, OK, lets double check that, OK, test shot looks good, OK I'm ready to go... ten minutes til the shoot... longest...ten minutes.. ever... OK I'm ready - let's do this and make everyone happy with the results!

@Wrongdom asked: With so many photographers competing for artist shoots, how do you stay ahead of the game and so high in demand? 
A) Well I don't think so many photographers are competing for artist shoots really... but you have to have a reason to do a shoot... I can't just say "Oh hey Slayer, let's do a shoot, just because" - It has to be for an outlet, and the way I keep busy is by having a consistent stream of work from magazines, music companies, and record labels - and when you work often, people notice.

@brandonMIW1995 asked: What is your favorite chicken wing sauce at the hangar?
A) Garlic Parm.

@antiqueclockall asked: What would you do for a Klondike bar? If lactose intolerant, what would you do for a bowl of Italian shaved ice?  
A) Honestly I'm not lactose intolerant but I like Italian ice WAY more than Klondike bar - and depending on the day - I would probably do a few ridiculous things to have a large bowl of Italian ice. But being that - despite rumors - I'm not actually fun. It would probably limit what I would actually do for a tasty cold dessert.   

@Lawlz_Rose asked: Out of all of your photo shoots, have any really stood out for you in your career? Good or bad?  
A)  Well many have certainly given me some fun and interesting stories - mostly good... But the shoots that sticks out the most to me in my career are probably Alice Cooper, Robert Englund, Megadeth, Slayer, basically the artists I grew up with images of them on my wall - getting to create something I would, as a kid, cut out and put on my wall - those ones are my favorite shots even if they are really rare because I'm a jaded old man haha.

@omandmsquidgy asked: If you were a porn star what would your name be & if you could choose anyone who would be your co-star? 
A) Who asked this - Bryan Stars? I'm not a porn fan. So I'll just go with my own name - and if I could date anyone ever.. it'd be 1980's Madonna - for sure. megababe back then.  

@BenZappaDover asked: How do you stay so metal? \m/  
A) Because I haven't changed much since I was 12 years old... long hair - band shirt - all black clothing.. I'm 28 now - pretty sure when I'm 90 I'll be repping all black clothes and a Megadeth shirt that's about 60 years old. ...which means I would have to buy it two years from now... 

@HateMeRateMe asked: What are the pros and cons of doing band photography? Do you prefer shooting in a studio or outdoors?  
A) Music photography has a lot of weird politics involved, it's so multifaceted that I can't even start to scratch the surface of explaining it, but sometimes you have to walk on egg shells to get the job done, and obviously with the music industry in a financial downward spiral you have to be creative if you want to make a living doing this. Shooting in studio is VERY boring to me - I'd rather shoot on location at all times - because a background is just so dull even though it works for some bands and some shots - I'd rather have a really cool looking location most of the time.



After interviewing Jeremy for 4 hours, I asked if he had anything else he'd like to add to our interview or think we should know. He declined... then started writing more.
His closing remarks? "Listen to Black Sabbath (the Dio years)!"

For more info on anything you read in the interview, check out Jeremy's websites below:
 Until next time kiddies, hugs&kisses, Hanna!

Friday, May 14, 2010

Interview with: Jeremy Saffer, Photographer


I was first introduced to Jeremy Saffer's name in early 2008, by MickDeth of Dethless Clothing/former 18 Visions bassist. I remember going through his photos and thinking to myself, "Wow, what I wouldn't give to shoot with him, or even speak to him..." Little did I know, Jeremy and I had way more than 1 mutual friend, we had a good handful. He began seeing my name on other friend's social networking sites and started talking to me. When we started talking, I realized we are very similar in the way we shoot as well as what we like to shoot. I learned a few things from speaking to Jeremy, from how to shoot certain things that will work for me, what not to shoot, ect... He helped me develop my idea for my site on the basics, so we decided it would only be appropriate if I interviewed him, since I do look up to him on his photography skills.

Here is what Jeremy had to say.

1. When did you first get into photography?
Basically when I was younger like 14 - 16ish - I was in a bunch of bands - and I always brought a camera with me and took photos of the bands that we played with - which sometime were pretty big bands - and it caught the attention of this dude Scott Lee - who runs most of the concerts around this area - and that snowballed into me doing photos for Mass. concerts - which is the big promoter around here - and back then I was just doing it for fun. I really wanted to go to Berklee - that was my dream. I went - for music production and engineering... and I HATED IT! So I ended up shooting a TON of shows while I was at Berklee - and when I dropped out - I was so confused as to what to do. So Scott was like "You like taking photos, BE A PHOTOGRAPHER!" it never dawned on me that, "Oh - this isn't just for fun - it could be something more." Then I got serious about it - toured a bit - went to Hallmark Institute of Photography- and made a career of it.

2. So your original plans were to be an audio engineer?
Well that was sort of the back up to the original plan which was to be a "rock star/metal god/in Metallica", haha. But as I've said time and time again - a Berklee diploma is basically worth the same paper they use to print Mcdonalds apps. - but at least the Mcdonalds app. will get you a job/paid. Yeah - I was Mr. Metal. It's all I loved - and Berklee kinda ruined playing music for me. I played guitar 10 hours a day, I've played maybe 2 hours in the last 5 years, OOOOVER IT! But that’s the thing about what you like to do, certain dreams ya know? If you're told to do what you love a certain way - you may begin to hate it. With photography - I can shoot anything and LOVE it.

3. So you used to be in FRONT of the camera before you ever considered really being behind it as a career?
Naw - I mean... once...

4. When you were in a band, did it ever occur to you to do the band's photos? Or did others do photos of you guys?
Nawwww, back then I wasn't taking photos of bands for real- I was just bringing like a disposable camera to show- nothing legit.

5. Oh, so it was all fun and games until Scott noticed you? When did you buy your fair professional camera?
Uhhh, well here's the history- when I started legit shooting shows, getting photo passes- I was on disposable cameras! For maybe the first 6 months- I had no idea! I knew NOTHING of photography Then I got a Sony point and shoot- some $300 jammy for about 6 months. Then I got some Song F... something or rather- Like a $700 point and shoot- while I was at Berklee I had that thing. Then at some point in 2003, I jumped to a 10D- then a 20D+Mark 2 1D
. Then a Mark21DS+40D, and that's where I'm at now.

6. In your opinion, what was the easiest to shoot off of?
My issue with the point and shoots was they weren't fast enough for me- it'd take FOREVER to focus- the quality was subpar- it sucked. As soon as I jumped to the 10D- again- I didn't really know photography- but it was FAST- and I could capture the shots I knew I wanted to get, and I was shooting mostly natural lighting back then- on auto/program. Then after like 3 shows of that, I started learning manual and how to use a flash properly.

7. Was there anything you referred to for information? Anyone who gave you tips?
Well no, I went to the Hallmark Institute, but they basically teach you the ground word you need to do anything. A VERY solid foundation for general work- but I kind of learned what I could- took what I wanted from there- and from there made it my own. They kind of disliked me for being a band photographer- which they said would never be anything- but I got 2 covers while I was there- I have bands rolling in and out of the schools to do shoots, it was fun. Toward the end of the year- they got it- they understood what I was doing, and backed me. But naw, you always learn. As a photographer- every shoot is kind of a learning experience- you learn from yourself- the seminars- workshops- dvds, ect...

8. What would you say is the easiest thing to shoot? From models to live shows, to sessions, to sports.
Well... everything is kind of it's own animal. Some bands- some models- and some shows I work are SUPER difficult, while others are SUPER easy. Shows, models, and shoots are never easier or more difficult then one another.


9. What would you say is your favorite shoot to this day?
Favorite shoot? I don't really have a favorite- and not so much because of the work- but because I have so much fun doing some shoots- that there really isn't a single one that really hits me as the best one- the most successful- or the most fun. There are some models, and bands, I LOVE working with, and get to work with often. So I'd say- my favorite thing is to work with people I love working with- and my favorite thing is to shoot a band that- to me- is legendary according to what I grew up on- like The Misfits- and stuff like that- where it's just, so surreal that I'm shoot photos of bands I've worshiped, ya know?

10. A lot of your stuff gets published on websites and magazines, which was your first?
My first thing I did was a webzine, that's how I got into it. I had a webzine called chaosmetal.com, and I ran a radio station on it back when Amp/Shockwave was not illegal. That was my start.

11. So you started your own zine and posted pictures there?
Exactly, and I got into most shows through that, but sometimes, now and again I got denied, bummmmeeeerrrr. My first print magazine- was the first time I had my 10D. I went to Ohio to shoot the LEGENDARY Candelmass (their first show in the US since the 80's with their Messiah on vocals, ahhh)- it was a metal fest, 2 days called the BWBK 6 pack weekend- and they ended up using my photos in the next issue of BWBK. I remember going to their music store when it came out- and i bought 6 copies of it. Then my next big print- for the cover of Metal Maniacs with a shoot I did with Mastadon. Then found a staff positions at Hardcore Ink- and after that, with outburn and a SLEW of others.

12. So your first bands really to be published, were metal bands. How did you really start this entire empire you have for yourself now?
Yeah, Candlemass, Nevermore, ect.- the bands I loved- you know, that's why I got into it- to shoot the bands I was really into- but things have changed since in terms of what I like to shoot and listen too, haha. At the time I shot ONLY metal shows- and would do SOME pop-punk, whatever else, if I needed or felt like it, ya know? But after a month or so- I shot anything I could.

13. So then your philosophy would be "shoot what you love and you'll never get bored of photography?"
It's not for everyone, some people can ONLY shoot concerts and won't do photo sessions, weddings, portraits, ect. Some people will ONLY shoot weddings. For me, I can shoot weddings, I can shoot senior portraits, I can shoot a Slayer cover band, I don't care. I love it all. I think if you start getting bored or bummed on what you're shooting- it's time to switch something up, because if this is your job and you get unhappy with it, you're fuckkkked, because that happened to me in music, and I had a midlife crisis, at like, 19.

14. Would you say this is your career, defined?
Are you asking if photography is my career? Yes- this is my only job and I couldn't imagine doing anything else for a LOT of reasons.

15. If it wasn't for photography, what do you think you'd be doing right now?
Pfft, who the hell knows? Maybe working at a concert venue- maybe working at my family's company- maybe guitar teching, being a rock star, recording bands, who knows, haha. All I know is I had a few paths in front of me- and this is the only one that made sense or worked, and I couldn't even fathom doing anything else.

16. Being a photographer of your stature, you've come to know a lot of people, bands, ect. Who made the biggest impact on your photography?
Well, there's a few for VERY different reasons. Scott Lee is the reason I'm a photographer. He's the one who pushed me to follow it- and kept me going during the really hard times, he really saw something more in me then even I did. So he was kind of the person who backed me- pushed me. He was like Mr. Miyagi in Karate Kid- expect he didn't teach me photography- just pushed me to get into it. The bands like All that Remains, Eighteen Visions, The Acacia Strain, Lacuna Coil, Mick, Phil, Lisa, Jasta, ya know- my good friends who would come to me over and over for photos and for ideas I had, and would be patient and let me experiment and learn while shooting them. Mick has been a victim to many bad/awesome ideas, same with Lisa. They are seriously troopers for putting up with me and honing in on my vision.

17. Would you say, because of them, you're still going?
Naw, I mean- every artist says he has a muse, I have many. They don't keep me going, but they are always there when I transcend to the next step of what I'm doing. Them being in front of my lens helps me get to the next level of what I'm attempting- their patience, ect. It's like a nerdy game,
when you're on Level 34... and need to be a Level 40... I'd say random whatever shoots don't really power me up as much as those long full day shoots with someone like Mick, or Lisa, ect.- it's more EXP POINTS! Haha, but those games, it's experience that really pushes you to the next level.

18. What would you say is the most important thing you walk away from a shoot with, minus the pictures, haha.
The experience for sure. You learn from every shoot, concert, session, model, whatever. You always learn from it, you see what works, you experiment a bit, you try different settings, that's always the best thing to take away from them, but, sometimes you end up molding very solid friendships from photo shoots, that to mean also means a lot. Some of my best friends on earth, I've met by photographing them.

19. Do bands usually go to you? Or do you go to them? Or is it both?
It's a bit of both. I have bands travel all over to come and shoot and I travel all over to shoot. Generally though, it's when a band is on tour, and I will go to where they are, or where they are recording. But if there's time they come to me- and either way works fine with me- I don't really like shooting in studios with bands so much, because it's SO limiting, so- on location- is much better for me in what I like to do.

20. So you would say you prefer live shots vs. sessions?
Well as with the previous question, they are VERY different- in generally I now prefer photo sessions with bands because it's so much more intimate and you get something that others don't in the shoot, you know? But I mean- if it's doing a photo shoot with some local band I've never heard of- or shoot A Day to Remember's entire set live, HAH! But yeah, in general- sessions have become more my focus.

21. If a band who's not well know come to you for pictures, would you accept?
Absolutely, small and local bands need shots too. As long as they are serious about what they do- I'm into it.

22. Is there anyone would turn down or away?
Yes- there are a lot of band who hit me up and think they are the best local band ever- have been around for 5 years- and offer me to shoot them for because of what it would do for my career... It would actually HURT my career to have my name on their photos. It's like, "oh THAT terrible local band won't give it up? Jeremy shot them? That sucks
." I don't want to work with bands who won't be around next week either. You know- those band who have different singers, drummers, ect. every other week. Some bands are like, "We only have $100." It's like, "OK, you all have day jobs- drink at practice- drink as shows... and you're going to tell me the 5 of you, only have $20 each for a shoot?!?! You much not take your band or your image very seriously then- have a good week long career." I mean, the best advice I could ever give any photographer- DO NOT WORK FOR FREE. Or for photo credit- because that's FREE. Bottom line, it costs money to do shoots- it's offensive for a band to offer nothing for a shoot.

23. What other advice do you have for beginner photographers?
Hah, "go to my seminar/workshops!" Naw, umm, basically for every photographer is different. What amature photogs need to decide is if it's ging to be a hobby or a career, and if they want it to be a career- as most do- they need to take it seriously. One of the biggest mistakes I see in this industry is photographers who go by- MOSHHARD PHOTO! or like- DARKARTPHOTO. Who's gonna remember that shit?! NO ONE! After ditching Chaos Metal, I used Jeremy Saffer for everything. That's why people know my name, and what I have a great career. If I was Chaos-Metal-Photo, no one on earth would know who the hell I am. I mean I have HOURS of advice for new photogs, but those are just a few.

24. So you would advise them to go by their names instead of a pseudonym?
Yes or a company name, like Blood-Soaked photography dot com or some crap. Shit's dumb. It's like putting your career into a grave. Watch- ready?!? Name me 3 photographers who go by a company name. Name me 10 photographers who go by their real name. Case and point. Kids just need to not get discouraged.

25. Clearly understandable, what advice could you give starting out? Picking a camera that suits the person? Ideas? How to generate creativity?
Well - learn as much as one can from wherever you can. Your camera is only as good as the person behind it, so that isn't as important as knowledge and confidence. Just don't step on toes- don't fight with people, love what you do, and do all you can. Ya know?

26. Has anyone ever given you advice, that you, to this day, repeat to your self when times get hard and stressful?
Not really, haha. The only advice I got, was from a photographer named Ross Halfin- He's a LEGEND to me- and he said, "Stop shooting wide angle."- I did the exact opposite- and it worked really well for me.


27. If you could shoot a model on a famous piece of ancient history anywhere, where would it by and why?
Uhhh, I'd love to do a shoot with Jesus nailed to the cross, that's kinda fiction but whatever. Maybe a decent model surrounded by crucified dudes, could work. NO WAIT! YOU!- in MASS!! See? There we go, ANSWERED!


28. If you haven't already, who would be your ideal person to shoot with?
There's a lot of people I haven't done sessions with that I would LOVE to shoot. My all time would have been Michael Jackson. A few others would be Madonna (especially in the 90's) and there's so many I would love to work with but haven't gotten the opportunity yet. It was cool, one of my first ever shoots was SLAYER and that was just mind blowing.

29. What would be your ideal spot to shoot at? Or is it all spur of the moment ideas?
Umm- in terms of location- I can shoot anywhere and make it work for what I like. I have a lot of situations where there's literally NOTHING to work with, and I have to make something of it. Like a small dressing room, a bus, a parking lot, I'd really like to shoot a band like Behemoth in a swamp. Or learn more abut set design and shoot a creepy band in a Burtonesque type of set.

30. In your opinion, ideal photo shoot, band and location.

Umm, I think Behemoth in a swamp is pretty perfect, haha, the logistics of it are nearly impossible, but it would rule. I mean- a naked Gaga/Madonna in Mickey Mouse's lap in front of Magic Kingdom would be BALLIN too. There;s always limitations to what you can actually do, bummer right?!? Hah!

31. Anything else?
I do solo sminars/workshops and ones with other photographers as well. I have one coming up in June with Gage. I have a book coming out on Halloween (Corpse paint project). I currently have a book out already called,
"Bring the Noise." Go check it out and pick up a copy!


Like what you heard and want to learn more? Stay in contact with Jeremy! Click the links below for his other sites:
JeremySaffer.com
JeremySaffer- Facebook
JeremySaffer- Myspace
JeremySaffer- DeviantArt
JeremySaffer- Model Mayhem
JeremySaffer- BlogSpot

Hugs&kisses, until next time kiddies, Hanna.